When he was assured that it was possible, he asked for the picture from his bed and said to me, “Give me that picture,” and tore Stalin’s picture into small pieces, and we posted Andranik’s picture.

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Then we came home and learned that Ararat was not ours. And so the quest began.

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In that book there was a huge section of pages cut with a blade or a sword. So, while saving the book, he was injured and later became blind.

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The 1982 school protests

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The secretary of the Komsomol talked to me many times to convince me. I was telling her, ok, I would join the Komsomol if you would give me a document that I am a human being. In other words, why is it necessary? I laughed at them.

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We were probably among the last dissidents who were already absorbed into the Karabakh movement or into the post-perestroika movements, which became a nationwide movement.

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No one thought that the Soviet Union would collapse. And it was not a matter of any nation, any state, any animosity; you only had a dream of restoring your identity, your national statehood. But there was no hope that it would be possible in 1982.

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However, raising the ecological problem, environmental protection, cleanliness, etc., that was not our main goal, it was a means for raising people’s consciousness.

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It was the end of the [19]84, if I’m not mistaken, they caught a Lebanese guy named Raffi at the airport, whom I certainly didn’t know. In [19]84 I... in short, I was called to the KGB.

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And our goal back then was the following: since there is an occasion, let’s speak about whatever is possible to speak about, what will not endanger the security of our people, will not do anything to our people, will not lead to cataclysms. In other words

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